婚姻板的這二任板主(serjor & CHTZ) - 婚姻
By Todd Johnson
at 2011-02-24T17:04
at 2011-02-24T17:04
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上次寫完akakapo與loser1二位板主評論後,受到廣大的好評(傲驕貌 XD)。
原本也有考慮要寫senjor的評論文,但是著眼於小弟我不支持他,所以實在很
難寫出什麼好話。若是一篇都是批評的文章,實在也少了可看性;至少我不愛。
不過經過CHTZ板皇後,讓我手癢難忍。我寫這篇文章的原因,是希望下一任
的婚姻板主,能夠好好的思考一下自己針對這些關鍵性議題時,要先有心中的
想法。以免像前二任的板主都被殺的措手不及,造成大家的困擾。
我是第一個投票反對senjor,理由非常簡單:他未婚。就像我這個從來沒有
化過妝的人,適合去當美妝板主嗎?我可以當,但是我只是個"匠"而己。對於
板上的事物無法體認,霧裡看花,無論是看文或是處理,應該都很難身有同感。
CHTZ我是第一個推文質疑他的人。因為在他2000次上站+620篇文章裡,二年
內在婚姻板上竟然沒有任何一篇文章。二年來,婚姻板從板務、八掛、問卜到
外遇各種文都有,但是這些文章都引不起CHTZ的興趣回文。但是這二年我猜測,
CHTZ應該有去別的板發文。因此我完全不認為CHTZ能夠有多了解婚姻板。
因為作者立場會影響文章,所以我都會聲明我對該人的看法。CHTZ是我玩BBS
18年來,第一次寫信含一字經去罵人的網友。在#1DNO2YgF的判決中,竟然要我
寫信去求饒,才能夠刑期減半。這也是我18年來,第一次去申訴一位板主。
這種板皇心態,真是讓我完全無法忍受。
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在我眼中,前後這二任婚姻板主,是有一個極大的相似地方:
senjor與CHTZ都有在看婚姻板,但是他們並沒有深刻的了解婚姻板。
(1)教母
套句我曾經的推文:不禁教母,婚姻板主絕對當不了三個月。
這二位板主一上任,都打著言論自由的旗緻,然後放出了教母。senjor是因
為大赦天下,而放出了教母。當我看到senjor大赦天下時,我第一個就想到
教母;其他人根本不重要。senjor大既千算萬算,沒有想到教母的威力這麼強大,
原本打著言論自由的旗緻,加上我在旁邊酸文(哈),讓他原本想要給教母一個
發言的園地。(這也和他的政見與理念有關)
經過了13天的掙札,以及無數板友公開私下的信件(私下是我猜的),senjor
終於找到一個讓教母永久水桶的方式。那個方式倒是讓我蠻驚訝的,因為一般來
要三次水桶才能永久水桶,加上教母的文只是「很討厭」。所以senjor能夠找
一次就永久水桶的方法,讓我很欽佩。
我不知道CHTZ到底婚姻板看了那裡。senjor還有話可說,教母己經水桶很久,雖
然在loser1任內出來一下,但是馬上被禁,所以senjor可以說不了解教母。但是
CHTZ竟然不知道senjor的教訓,仍然放出教母,還為教母發文申冤。
很明顯的,CHTZ再次低估了教母對婚姻板主的影響。在群起而攻之的情況下,
CHTZ撐了12天後,去ID_multi準備開始浸教母水桶。簡單來說,這二任板主在
當上板主時,就沒有一個好的開始;教母事件都把他們的人氣狂降,結束蜜月期。
(2)迷路文
婚姻板的第二個關鍵議題,迷路文。大家請先看 #1AdTALAr (marriage)。
迷路文基本上是婚前文的總稱。有些婚前文是真的很跨張,像是大學生剛交個
男朋友,就來問適不適合結婚。也有那種未婚懷孕或是接近結婚,有時候狀況
非常悲慘,若是不讓板友點醒或是好好規勸,實在有違天理。
婚前文中,有關男人犯賤/婆婆兇狠/作者死不悔改的文章,特別噬血。板上
女性網看完後,常常奮不顧身的狂回文勸導,造成板上該標題洗板,進而影響
其他議題的討論。這也是當初akakapo會禁迷路文的主因。
senjor的開放,當然讓很多板友抱怨。CHTZ在沒有想清楚下,定出十個噓文
就被判迷路文的規定,更是被傳為佳話(?)。若是婚姻板僅限婚後文的討論,
那真是又有點限制太嚴苛;有些文章真的需要大家來拯救那位迷途羔羊。
在akakapo與loser1的時代,Marriage板與Getmarry板有一個基本的分工法
則:婚前文屬GM,婚後文屬Ma。這種默契,絕對有其歷史的演進。很可惜
senjor與CHTZ不了解過去發生的事,所以在板上產生許多抱怨。
所以下一位板主,請先想好,婚前文你要怎麼處理。loser1的作法是很值得
參考的:原則鎖文、例外開放。鎖文而不刪,讓有興趣的板友可以回信。遇到
太慘烈的狀況,就開放討論吧。
(3)推文閒聊
先看一下:#1CdU7W3V (marriage),謝謝。
婚姻板無論在akakapo/loser1年代,都是可以聊天的。這樣子的聊天,造成
婚姻板之前的高人氣與合樂融融的氣氛。我想婚姻板之所以讓大家這麼開心的
觀看,閒聊推文是很重要的一環。
不過,因為當時推文刪除的爭議,造成senjor與CHTZ都禁止閒聊。每篇冰冷
冷的文章在板上,唉~~~這半年來大家喜歡嗎?
(4)匿名ID
這個嘛,五角大廈的網路都能破,所以天下沒有密祕的網路資料。有得有失,
匿名ID我是肯定其作用,不過新板主自己考量吧。
(4)小結
希望下任婚姻板主能夠想清楚上面的事情,尤其是前二點,這對你治理婚姻
版有很大的幫助。
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senjor:過客
根本不認同現今婚姻制度的senjor,用過客二字來形容,應該是最貼切不過。
在看婚姻板時,senjor看著這些與自己沒有關係的文章,大概很難激起他的熱情。
不認同婚姻制度的態度上,也反應在他的施政裡。一開始的精華區重整,就讓
他花了很大的心思來處理。
第二個迷路文,GM板主特地來與senjor討論。senjor當板主的基本裡念,節錄:
「實際上我覺得台灣所認定的『婚姻』還太狹隘,甚至我希望婚姻能更多元化,
不在限定於台灣目前的婚姻」。基於此理念,senjor開放只要有關婚姻的議題就
可以在板上討論,這樣子卻打破了GM板與Marriage板長達四年以來的默契。對於
未婚的senjor,大概也不會去GM看婚紗照,看板時大既也很少關心此類迷路文
議題,才在後來板上婚前文不斷,甚至還出現#1CkM8SCR都可以開心活著。
接下來也因為不認同以婚姻為基礎的判決,senjor大赦天下,放出了教母。連續
三次重大事件,把senjor的管板熱情消磨殆盡,所以開始無為而治(擺爛??)。所以
身為過客的senjor,在四個月時,交出了板主。
在無為而治的下,確實讓婚姻板經過loser1的風暴後,得到了休息。這也點出了
ptt現今最大的矛盾:一位有作為的板主,因為作了很多事,所以有很多人可以申
訴抱怨;若是一位沒有作為的板主,反而事情又少,也可以穩穩的坐在板主位上。
相較於一直想要努力為婚姻板奮鬥執法的CHTZ,二個人正好呼應了這一點。
senjor整個管板的過程中,唯一讓我覺得特別要講的,就是婚前迷路文的部分。
在senjor的時代,沒有所謂的迷路文;只要和婚姻有任何一點關係的文章,都是
合法的文章。但是當有一篇婚前迷路文出現時,很多不理解新規定的板友,開始
噓文,造成發文者的權益損失。
其損失有二個部分:(1)婚前文下面n個噓文,造成板友根本無意去回答。(2)
婚前文的作者被噓後,以為自己真的"迷路"了,然後砍文,造成作者可以得到正
確回應但是卻沒有。
senjor針對上面的說法回應為:他不能剝奪板友噓文的權利。就我的觀點來說,
板主發現板友有錯誤觀念甚至造成板友損失時,至少也應該要跳出來「宣導」。
畢竟在bbs上,板主多說個幾次,那種宣導效果是蠻效的。不過,就如同我說的,
senjor只是個過客,所以這或許對他來說也不重要吧。
特別寫一下senjor最後對未來板主的建議是:把信箱加到最大!我想senjor在
私下接到無數的建議信件,讓他疲於回覆。所以未來的板主請有個認知,你除了
管板外,還要面對家庭主婦們無數的善意。
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CHTZ:誤入叢林的小白兔
原本標題想寫「好傻好天真」,但是覺得「誤入叢林的小白兔」更適合。CHTZ
應該是人生勝利組,去美國讀書找到好工作,取妻生子,真是恭喜他。所以在面
對人世間的險惡時,似乎有點措手不及。
CHTZ應該沒有當板主的經驗,可能平常看看一般板主管管板,偶爾水桶人,應
該是一件輕鬆的工作。在工作上可以不問過程,只問結果。但是板規與水桶是一
種剝奪他人利益的行為,就必需要在程序上合法,而不能只問結果了。
在CHTZ的眼中,婚姻板的亂像來自幾個壞人:loser1、djboy(我)、redddd,後
來還加上一個噓死他的爾雅。為了看不慣loesr1的ASCII圖,甚至在板規中禁止用
圖來回答。我想,婚姻板應該是全PTT,唯一禁三熊圖的板吧……
這種一開始針對他人的限制,加上又限制了一般PTT使用者的發文權益,除了P2
的那群人之外,甚至把一些很少關心板務的人都逼出來反對他。加上他水桶人時,
很明顯就是針對「板皇的黑名單」,而沒有保持公正的處理所有人士,讓想維護
他的人都辭窮了。像是他心中的好人drama,多次違反板規,甚至自請水桶,我們
板皇都無法忍心下手。drama大果真人漂亮就是不一樣啊~~~~(誤)。
CHTZ的豐功偉業就真的磬竹難書,再寫下去也沒有意思。可以理解CHTZ想要讓
婚姻板回覆往日笑容的熱血,但是管理是一門藝術。我相信這次婚姻板主的經驗,
一定可以讓他的人生更上一層樓 XD。
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