家庭財務記帳分享 - 婚姻
By Gary
at 2011-02-07T18:07
at 2011-02-07T18:07
Table of Contents
※ 引述《drama (OoooOooOooOOOoooO)》之銘言:
: 所以我老公才會放心把他所有的薪水都交給我啊....:P
分享"不一樣"的理財方式~~
我們家是雙薪~~ 夫妻錢各管各的 各存各的~~ (和婚前一樣~~)
記帳也是各記各的~~~ (所以 我不清楚 我先生怎麼記他自己的帳目~~)
至於我自己....
買菜錢....(我認為這些都是小錢~~) 不記
買家俱 買車 買筆電 買書 買家電 自己房子的房屋稅&地價稅
自己車子的牌照稅&燃料稅... (這些都是自己想買的 或自己的東西~~)
比較大筆金額 我才會記
目前 我先生有貸他自己名下的房子 我也有貸我名下的房子 (自己房子 自己負責)
至於紅包 孝親費 等 (自己家人 自己負責 自己孝順 自己陪伴~~)
自己帳目 只能自己記錄~~~
我們沒有"共同"帳目~~ 也不覺得有這"必要"!!!
結婚至今 很少為錢吵架~~
基本上 覺得天天在談戀愛~~ v( ̄︶ ̄)y
(夫妻天天住一起 除了假日/除夕/過年連續幾天 各自回老家陪自己父母~~)
PS. 將來若有小孩 我的付出會和我先生一樣多~~ 因為:
1. 小孩掛雙姓~~
姓氏有掛到(保障到)就好 誰排前或排後 都已無法"獨大"!!!!
2. 不想讓小孩"看扁"媽媽~~ 讓小孩知道: 爸媽"同樣"有出錢出力在他/她身上~~
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魯冰(Gayle Rubin)首創 "交易女人" (traffic in women)一詞。
"The Traffic in Women: Notes on the 'Political Economy' of Sex." 〈交易女人:
性的「政治經濟學」〉,本文原載於 Woman, Culture and Society (1974)一書;中文版請
看《女性主義經典》一書,頁167,女書文化出版。(有生到女兒的爸爸媽媽最好看一下~~)
[新聞] 勞參率破5成 女人撐起半邊天 http://tinyurl.com/287k2pf
[新聞] 父姓加母姓中國四字名漸多 (2010-09-21) http://tinyurl.com/25r6cx5
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: 所以我老公才會放心把他所有的薪水都交給我啊....:P
分享"不一樣"的理財方式~~
我們家是雙薪~~ 夫妻錢各管各的 各存各的~~ (和婚前一樣~~)
記帳也是各記各的~~~ (所以 我不清楚 我先生怎麼記他自己的帳目~~)
至於我自己....
買菜錢....(我認為這些都是小錢~~) 不記
買家俱 買車 買筆電 買書 買家電 自己房子的房屋稅&地價稅
自己車子的牌照稅&燃料稅... (這些都是自己想買的 或自己的東西~~)
比較大筆金額 我才會記
目前 我先生有貸他自己名下的房子 我也有貸我名下的房子 (自己房子 自己負責)
至於紅包 孝親費 等 (自己家人 自己負責 自己孝順 自己陪伴~~)
自己帳目 只能自己記錄~~~
我們沒有"共同"帳目~~ 也不覺得有這"必要"!!!
結婚至今 很少為錢吵架~~
基本上 覺得天天在談戀愛~~ v( ̄︶ ̄)y
(夫妻天天住一起 除了假日/除夕/過年連續幾天 各自回老家陪自己父母~~)
PS. 將來若有小孩 我的付出會和我先生一樣多~~ 因為:
1. 小孩掛雙姓~~
姓氏有掛到(保障到)就好 誰排前或排後 都已無法"獨大"!!!!
2. 不想讓小孩"看扁"媽媽~~ 讓小孩知道: 爸媽"同樣"有出錢出力在他/她身上~~
--
魯冰(Gayle Rubin)首創 "交易女人" (traffic in women)一詞。
"The Traffic in Women: Notes on the 'Political Economy' of Sex." 〈交易女人:
性的「政治經濟學」〉,本文原載於 Woman, Culture and Society (1974)一書;中文版請
看《女性主義經典》一書,頁167,女書文化出版。(有生到女兒的爸爸媽媽最好看一下~~)
[新聞] 勞參率破5成 女人撐起半邊天 http://tinyurl.com/287k2pf
[新聞] 父姓加母姓中國四字名漸多 (2010-09-21) http://tinyurl.com/25r6cx5
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推 condenza:想知道教母有沒有考慮生小孩 小孩總是共同項目了吧? XD 02/07 18:09
噓 redddd:菜錢是小錢?? 我家一天菜錢就已經破二千了 小錢??? 02/07 18:10
→ redddd:還有四字名算啥 我有個學生叫做劉富蘭克林 五字名 02/07 18:12
→ redddd:你和我一樣生五個孩子 你能做到 我就佩服你 02/07 18:13
噓 rehtra:真是夠了 02/07 18:14
→ situationist:背兩個房子貸款,科科… 02/07 18:15
→ leprosy:推Gayle Rubin,教母除了女性主譯經典一書以外,還讀過Rubin 02/07 18:15
→ leprosy:的其他著作嗎? 02/07 18:15
噓 rehtra:自以為掛了姓就算有付出,好爛的觀念 02/07 18:16
→ situationist:我想建商應該請教母來代言一下… 02/07 18:16
推 djboy:教母在享受她「最後的快樂時光」。版主上任後,她就會被刪了 02/07 18:20
噓 rehtra:誰知道? 02/07 18:21
→ Coffeejelly:純好奇,沒有"共同帳目"??那水電費呢??兩人分開住嗎?? 02/07 18:21
噓 rehtra:最好連套子都各付各的 02/07 18:24
→ many5:水電 第四台 網路 兩人分擔 (有人付網路 有人付水電) 02/07 18:24
噓 redddd:是的 女生用的套子好大一個 像件雨衣...(相對黃瓜保鮮膜) 02/07 18:25
→ many5:小錢 沒有各付各觀念~~ 02/07 18:25
→ redddd:小錢?? 我家七口人的電費 超驚人的 小錢??? 我好窮喔 02/07 18:27
噓 rehtra:結果就在『小錢』那邊用別人的,占別人便宜啦 02/07 18:28
推 djboy:話說,雙姓的話,那個人的姓掛在前面啊? 02/07 18:30
→ djboy:掛在前面的那個,好像比較「大」耶。 02/07 18:30
→ many5:小錢~~ 當然是 輪流付~~ 沒有一定~~ 02/07 18:32
→ many5:姓氏有掛到(保障到)就好 誰排前或排後 都無法"獨大"!!!! 02/07 18:36
※ 編輯: many5 來自: 124.29.171.77 (02/07 18:37) 推 djboy:教母,別給我 駝鳥心態,明明前面的那個字就比較大 02/07 18:37
→ djboy:這是關鍵問題,別躲啊! 02/07 18:37
噓 rehtra:掛個姓又不會多分道你外公的遺產~校數倫 02/07 18:37
→ djboy:你的回答,關係全天下想要取雙姓的婦女同胞的決定 02/07 18:38
→ many5:比較大? 是多大? 證明一下? 02/07 18:40
噓 rehtra:自己都不敢證明雙姓有三小保證了 02/07 18:40
→ djboy:就是比較大。比較大,就不公平啊~~~ 02/07 18:41
→ djboy:管他大多少,有大就是不公平。教母,你要解決婦女同胞問題 02/07 18:41
→ redddd:陳 02/07 18:43
→ redddd: 怡君 02/07 18:43
→ redddd:李 02/07 18:43
→ redddd:教母 你要叫小朋友這樣寫自己的名字 這樣才公平 02/07 18:44
→ many5:有比較大嗎? 我不認為~~ 也不認同~~ 02/07 18:44
噓 redddd:你的孫子的名子可以這樣寫 02/07 18:47
→ redddd:陳 02/07 18:48
→ redddd:趙光匡 02/07 18:48
→ redddd:李 02/07 18:48
→ drama:為什麼你的小孩會「看扁」媽媽?你會因此看扁你媽媽? 02/07 18:53
→ drama:這完全是教養問題吧...會教出這種小孩你千萬別生啊! 02/07 18:54
→ ants1224:怎麼我感覺像兩個單身的人同居而已@@a 02/07 18:54
→ drama:話說買菜錢只有會下廚的人才會記吧..不然都是記餐費XDD 02/07 18:58
→ many5:"無業" "無存款" "與社會脫節" "說話比較小聲" 等等 本來就 02/07 19:00
→ many5:比較會被"看扁"~~~尤其 若自己定位自己為"二等公民""小女人" 02/07 19:01
→ ants1224:話說我家平日8人吃飯,假日10人以上,買菜是大錢@@ 02/07 19:01
→ many5:而且才需不時打"悲情牌"~~~ 02/07 19:02
推 Machadango:其實我覺得搞不好人家家裡的菜錢真的是小錢啊... 02/07 19:02
→ drama:原來是你本身就有「歧視」的想法嘛....你自己自卑幹嘛去 02/07 19:03
→ drama:牽扯他人?你要歧視那些人請不要把這種觀念灌輸給孩子好嗎? 02/07 19:04
→ drama:虧你簽名檔難得放了一本好書,結果都不知道書念哪去了 02/07 19:05
→ many5:我會教育我小孩: 別當個""無業" "無存款" "與社會脫節"的人 02/07 19:05
噓 redddd:無業 無存款 與社會脫節 就是次等人?? 你會不會太離譜了 02/07 19:06
→ drama:你根本就是教育你小孩去歧視其他達不到你要求的人! 02/07 19:06
→ drama:這樣居然還口口聲聲喊平等平權? 02/07 19:07
→ jill987:小孩以後選甚麼也不是當媽有教就聽的,輕鬆點 02/07 19:07
→ redddd:你否定了過去女性付出的價值 你要教的是尊重任何人的觀念 02/07 19:07
→ drama:(我希望她別生小孩害人啊) 02/07 19:08
→ redddd:我可不可說你歧視我娘?? 你會不會太超過了 02/07 19:08
→ redddd:希望不要遇上無良老闆 不要遇上雷曼兄弟 不然.......科科 02/07 19:09
噓 bunnys:讓我幫你複習一下,說是各用各的錢財產分開的妳,之前po過的 02/07 19:18
→ bunnys:文,2009/06/27"你說你老公住你的房子",所以你的房子是紙糊 02/07 19:19
→ bunnys:的嗎?不然怎麼會是小錢? 02/07 19:20
→ ants1224:我算給各位聽:兩夫妻假設每天吃7-11,每餐45元,不吃水果 02/07 19:22
噓 neawen: 02/07 19:23
→ ants1224:宵夜零食… 45元*2人*3餐*30天*12月=97200元/年 02/07 19:23
推 leprosy:教母真的讀過Rubin嗎? 我是很喜歡她的文章... 02/07 19:23
→ leprosy:可惜這邊沒有可以討論的人啊 02/07 19:23
→ ants1224:比 書+第四台+房屋稅+地價稅+書 都貴 02/07 19:23
→ drama:她應該是選擇性閱讀..只看到她想看的幾句話吧 02/07 19:24
→ drama:就像她每次在板上討論時一樣(攤手) 02/07 19:25
→ drama:我真的希望她別生小孩啊!她自己要說一套做一套OK 02/07 19:25
→ drama:小孩從小到大每天這樣聽她碎碎念雙姓和兩性平權啥的,會瘋掉 02/07 19:25
→ drama:(另外我認為她根本不知道魯冰以什麼理論出名XDDD) 02/07 19:28
噓 bunnys:對了,如果雙姓小孩就不會看扁媽媽,那你是怎麼看你的母親的? 02/07 19:38
→ bunnys:如果雙姓的結果小孩姓:巫歸,楊韋,王巴,殷金,夏劉,孔龍被從 02/07 19:38
→ bunnys:小笑到大爸媽會不會比較爽 02/07 19:39
→ ants1224:假設她的孩子叫陳林oo,陳林oo嫁給張先生,他們的小孩要 02/07 19:44
→ ants1224:叫 張陳林xx 嗎? 02/07 19:44
→ ants1224:或 陳林張xx 嗎? 02/07 19:46
→ many5:蕭吳至剛和周蔡美美所生的小孩,可取名:蕭蔡依林/吳蔡依林/ 02/07 19:46
→ many5:蕭周依林/吳周依林,等。折衷式雙姓制,名字永遠只有四個字 02/07 19:46
→ many5:看小孩的爸媽,想"標記"自己哪一個姓。 02/07 19:47
→ condenza:齁 怎樣折中!!該選哪兩個??不公平啦!! (地上滾動) 02/07 19:47
噓 ants1224:不,姓氏是避免近親通婚的一個好的法源依據,可以向上追 02/07 19:49
→ drama:那我寧可自己選姓,不冠父母姓,煩死了! 02/07 19:49
→ ants1224:溯8代,用以避面近親通婚造成的基因負面放大效應 02/07 19:50
→ drama:回應ants的想法,所以未來大家用基因密碼代替姓名就好 02/07 19:51
→ drama:以後沒姓氏問題,只有別號..XD 02/07 19:51
噓 bunnys:那你姓什麼?你有看扁母親嗎?你老公姓什麼?他也看扁母親嗎? 02/07 19:52
→ ants1224:基因密碼… 那戶政的電腦欄位不夠長,得改版 02/07 19:52
→ ants1224:從記帳討論到姓氏 XD 02/07 19:54
→ drama:只要有教母的加入,不管什麼話題都會變成雙姓啊!(無奈) 02/07 19:58
→ many5:只要有雙姓 問題會少很多~~~ 雙姓=雙贏!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02/07 20:02
→ drama:那你贏了什麼?你先生又贏了什麼? 02/07 20:04
→ condenza:教母的自推感覺好像反串喔 XD 02/07 20:04
→ drama:至少你在很多板上都輸了XD 02/07 20:04
→ many5:輸? 夫妻天天像談戀愛~~ 雙方權益都保障到~~ 輸啥???????? 02/07 20:07
噓 bunnys:那你父母不願給你雙姓是被你歸類為人生失敗組嗎?? 02/07 20:08
推 leprosy:還是沒有人可以討論Rubin嗎? (失望) 02/07 20:09
→ ants1224:當然輸啦,光是『名字永遠只有四個字』被犧牲性的那個人 02/07 20:09
→ drama:要是你過得真的這麼好,就不會到處被浸水桶啦,果然當局者迷 02/07 20:09
→ ants1224:就輸了,因為"權益"沒被保障到 XD 02/07 20:09
→ drama:癩皮大,婚姻板很難吧....XD 02/07 20:10
→ drama:如果教母真有把書看懂,就不會在這邊吵雙姓了 02/07 20:14
推 leprosy:抓馬大念過Rubin的文章嗎? 02/07 20:18
噓 l19:等你自己先掛雙姓 再來這邊推廣吧! 02/07 20:22
→ many5:光是小孩雙姓觀念 就已讓我們夫妻兩人婚姻 平順很多~~~^_^ 02/07 20:30
噓 bunnys:小孩生下來再說,還沒生小孩在那邊說什麼 02/07 20:35
→ bunnys:難道妳父母和你公婆的婚姻沒雙姓就很不平順 02/07 20:35
→ brillante:樓上好狠,教母怎麼回答都不行。XDDDD 02/07 20:37
→ drama:我只唸過一些導讀與介紹,她的本文我反而還沒機會看 02/07 20:37
噓 ntusnoopy:怎麼可能對小孩付出一樣多? 妳有子宮有奶他沒有啊 XDDD 02/07 20:37
→ ntusnoopy:小孩只好"看扁"爸爸??? 02/07 20:38
→ drama:ntusnoopy好有梗!XDDDDDDD 02/07 20:38
噓 bunnys:教母永遠不會回答,為什麼他要幫老公懷孕5個月,不是什麼都要 02/07 20:40
→ bunnys:一人一半嗎? 02/07 20:41
→ drama:喔,對了,我對於她所謂「交易女人」的部分興趣不大,是因為 02/07 20:43
→ drama:我覺得這是以已建構之父權社會為前提而去論交易女人,並沒有 02/07 20:44
→ drama:考量到某些歷史的演變...變成交易女人這件事好像是被動的 02/07 20:44
→ drama:而我覺得一開始這種方式的形成並不全然是被動的 02/07 20:45
→ bunnys:教母本來就活在父權思維下啊 02/07 20:46
推 brillante:我只覺得她都以男人馬首是瞻而已。啥都說女人可以跟男人 02/07 20:46
→ brillante:一樣。但我可一點都不想刮鬍子。= = 02/07 20:46
→ bunnys:可是她(?)也沒有30公分起跳啊 02/07 20:47
→ drama:教母就算了..我覺得她連魯冰想說什麼都沒看懂XD 02/07 20:47
→ brillante:我只想跟她說我不想跟男人一樣orz 02/07 20:48
噓 rehtra:ntusnoopy怎麼知道她有子宮有奶?能證明嗎? 02/07 20:52
噓 ntusnoopy:說得也是,我不能幫她證明 >< 02/07 21:09
→ ntusnoopy:剛剛想到一個漫畫的梗很適合雙姓啊~ 陳林史廖 02/07 21:12
推 rita0916:每家有每家的作法 沒必要噓 他夫婦倆爽就好 02/07 22:12
噓 heysuki:我實在不懂雙姓對婚姻有啥幫助耶...請教母指教... 02/07 22:20
噓 afria:我媽最偉大之處並不是她出的錢比我老爸還多 02/07 22:49
→ afria:若你的小孩用錢看你,你應該得看輕你自己,怎麼教到那麼失敗 02/07 22:50
※ 編輯: many5 來自: 124.29.160.51 (02/07 23:35) → brillante:教母,妳婚前明明就說假日夫妻才能維繫情感的。= = 02/07 23:37
→ brillante:還有教妳一個乖,其實只要找同姓氏的結婚就沒問題了:~~ 02/07 23:38
→ brillante:還有若孩子長大想跟爸爸姓,妳是不是就不愛他了? 02/07 23:39
→ bunnys:教母婚前也說要找薪水一樣的,所有家用一人一半,不要倒貼男 02/07 23:47
→ bunnys:人,但是婚後就買房子給老公住啦 02/07 23:47
→ elphie:姓氏誰排前面差很多的 大部分排後面的姓氏最後還是會出局 02/08 02:29
→ elphie:一開始就是因為被認為比較不重要 所以才會排第二個姓氏啊 02/08 02:32
→ fionmsh:"姓氏有掛到就好"?? 這我跟我老公大概會吵翻天了吧,誰都 02/08 03:24
→ fionmsh:不想排第二,教母,這裡就出現大問題啦 02/08 03:24
推 brillante:我賭教母的孩子只要是兒子第一個姓一定是老公的姓 02/08 03:26
→ fionmsh:那怎麼可以,那可是佔了女人的便宜耶 02/08 03:30
→ fionmsh:光想到我們夫妻要為了誰的姓排前面而大打出手,就覺得這機 02/08 03:32
→ fionmsh:制實在太粗糙可笑了 02/08 03:32
噓 rehtra:不只兒子,女兒也是老公的姓排在先啊 02/08 03:33
噓 PHONm: ? 02/08 08:50
推 regent2:也許她家自己種菜,養家禽,所以菜錢真的花不多,為何噓她呢? 02/09 11:32
→ regent2:子女掛雙姓,的確彰顯兩性"姓氏"的延續,為何要挑她的語病? 02/09 11:33
噓 mrsdsn:家母是家庭主婦,我可不會看扁她。 02/09 13:31
→ tivo:有賺錢的講話都不見得會大聲了,教母舉例有問題唷~ 02/09 17:08
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