可以接受多久帶小孩回去看爸媽? - 婚姻
By Dinah
at 2022-10-25T12:48
at 2022-10-25T12:48
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主張祖父母跟孫子一定要有互動的人,可能是沒有經歷過我這種情況
我哥是長房長孫,出生就被祖父母抱回老家養;我小時候的記憶裡一直有我媽哭著要我爸
把我哥帶回來、然後兩個人吵架的畫面
我小的時候和爸媽在台北租房子住,有一次祖母帶著我哥來台北玩,白天我爸去上班,就
我媽、祖母、我哥和我四個人在家;那時我應該還沒上幼稚園,我媽在廚房、我和我哥在
客廳玩,我祖母對我說,你媽是破麻;然後我媽應該是聽到了,跟祖母大吵一架,祖母沒
等到我爸回來就帶著哥哥回老家
再後來我爸媽離婚,我也被我爸送到老家,我再也沒有我媽的消息,直到我三十歲那年去
幫當事人調戶籍謄本時順口問承辦人可不可以查我媽的戶謄,才知道她已經在我十幾歲時
就過世了
我哥在懂事前用「那個破麻」稱呼我媽,因為我祖母都是這樣稱呼她的;我從小被祖母打
到大,她對外的說法是「被那個人帶大品性很差」
不要誤會喔,我的祖父母不僅不是什麼違法亂紀之徒,在我們那個小小的鄉下還有熱心公
益的好名聲,但這一點都不影響她在我心中惡毒的形象
所以不要再說祖父母一定有權利看孫子了,如果她們會試圖離間父母子女的關係,那保持
距離才是正確的決定
…………補充說明……………
https://i.imgur.com/20NEtuT.jpg
很多人沒看清楚我回文的對象,所以補充我在本文的推文截圖,我發文不是支持所有爸媽
不讓小孩接觸爺爺奶奶,而是支持爸媽保護孩子遠離會傷害小孩或離間父母子女的人,不
管那個人是誰;在我的故事裡那個人是我的祖母,在別的故事裡也許是繼母、叔父或鄰居
三姑六婆,父母有義務保護孩子,也有義務注意哪些人事物會傷害孩子,在我的故事裡,
我爸爸就疏忽了,他和鄉里的大部分人一樣,以為我祖母是熱心公益善良和藹的人,其實
後來他也了解了,並且試圖補救,只是為時已晚,我沒有寫,只是因為沒有必要將所有的
私事都揭露出來,不代表沒有發生
另外,p版友提到我直到三十歲才查媽媽的資訊沒什麼好說的,我想回一下
我不是直到三十歲才查媽媽的資訊,而是直到三十歲才查到她的資訊;我曾經做過從中山
北路一段走到圓山,沿路找印象中外公家的地方,因為我小時候只有外公家在中山北路以
及去圓山動物園的印象;我也作過打查號台電話一次問五個號碼,將台北市裡和我媽相同
名字的電話全部打一輪,但沒有一個是我媽;小時候偷偷到公共電話亭打印象中媽媽的電
話但沒有打通、在聯合報副刊看到耶篇投稿內容很像我媽的經歷,寫信到聯合報請她們提
供作者聯絡方式...我沒有在文章中寫完這些,因為那與我想表達的主題無關,但很高興有
版友問了,我在回憶的過程中又想起更多以為已經遺忘的往事;一個人只有徹底被遺忘,
才是真正的逝去,我是這樣相信的,所以謝謝p版友以及這篇文章許多許多的鄉民朋友,
謝謝你們安慰我、支持我,或者質問我,不管那一種都讓我想起更多跟媽媽之間的事,謝
謝你們。
: 八卦版有人說這版變成婆婆版
: 很好奇來看一下
: 結果還是婚姻版
: 基本上我覺得
: 你家這情形你爸媽雖然口無遮攔
: 不知道在講三小
: 你哥還默默吞掉不知道在懦弱三小
: 但基本上你大嫂還是錯的一蹋糊塗
: 你大嫂可以這輩子都不跟你爸媽見面
: 我也覺得沒什麼,
: 甚至你爸媽百年後他連送都不肯送
: 我也最多就覺得怎麼那麼會撿恨…
: 講些放開點讓自己輕鬆點這種幹話而已
: (畢竟你父母講的話真的很沒常識, 沒水準)
: 但去剝奪一對祖父母跟孫子
: 或者是孫子跟祖父母的互動
: 就錯到不能再錯
: (祖父母是犯罪份子, 這種特例不講)
: (不過即使是犯罪份子, 只要對小孩有心
: 沒刻意教壞 也不是太大問題…畢竟只是接觸
: 又不是長期給他們帶)
: 你嫂子
: 會這樣做壓根底是把自己的怨恨情緒
: 利用孩子得到發洩而已
: 你嫂子壓根底沒為小孩子去想
: 甚至是把一種怨恨教育傳到下一代
: 一個人要不要撿恨一輩子, 是他自己的事情
: 但我敢肯定撿恨的日子, 絕對比不撿恨的人
: 還要來過的輕鬆快樂
: (我知道不撿恨很難做啦 我也超撿恨 只能努力過輕鬆而已)
: 但身為人父母
: 不就是要絞盡腦汁讓自己後代過的比自己好嗎
: 那幹嘛去剝奪自己小孩多了祖父母疼的機會
: 幹嘛教育小孩多點怨恨呢?
: 打到這裡, 我覺得我打的東西好像不是應該在結婚版
: 應該是在babymother版
: 那還是老話一句「就…離婚吧」
: 補一下自己好了
: 我跟我丈人丈母娘他們
: 是沒什麼真衝突
: 但我丈母娘又口無遮攔
: 幾句靠北的話,也不是沒聽過
: 我是沒特別怨恨啦…
: 但要我特別喜歡也絕對沒有
: 丈人話又少…也都不知道能講啥
: 因此…我生小孩前也都幾個月見一次
: 甚至沒什麼重要的事情時,
: 我宿醉我老婆要回家
: 我還會叫他不要回去...少了人幫我跑腿…哈哈
: 有重要事情不需要我出面時, 我一直都要去不去的(看我當時心情)
: 生了小孩後
: 人家外公外婆不嫌棄, 當成寶
: 小孩又把外公外婆當成…嗯…玩具?(哈)
: 我現在不論是宿醉難受…熬夜沒睡
: 週日都會燃起洪荒之力讓他們享受祖孫之樂
: 然後自己在那邊快死掉, 但看他們玩得開心..我也開心
: 幾年過後, 跟丈人開始有話講了
: 感情也越來越融洽了
: 雖然我還是覺得我丈母娘常常口無遮攔
: 但…我就當作那是我女兒玩具的租借費用吧
: 講到這裡, 我是要強調
: 我覺得生為父母千萬不要因為自己的情緒
: 或者任何事情去剝奪/利用小孩該有的生活及權力
: 這是不道德且自私的
: 你可以自己怨恨或喜歡一些事物,
: 但沒必要逼著小孩跟你一起…
: 甚至剝奪到他本來該有的
:
--
我哥是長房長孫,出生就被祖父母抱回老家養;我小時候的記憶裡一直有我媽哭著要我爸
把我哥帶回來、然後兩個人吵架的畫面
我小的時候和爸媽在台北租房子住,有一次祖母帶著我哥來台北玩,白天我爸去上班,就
我媽、祖母、我哥和我四個人在家;那時我應該還沒上幼稚園,我媽在廚房、我和我哥在
客廳玩,我祖母對我說,你媽是破麻;然後我媽應該是聽到了,跟祖母大吵一架,祖母沒
等到我爸回來就帶著哥哥回老家
再後來我爸媽離婚,我也被我爸送到老家,我再也沒有我媽的消息,直到我三十歲那年去
幫當事人調戶籍謄本時順口問承辦人可不可以查我媽的戶謄,才知道她已經在我十幾歲時
就過世了
我哥在懂事前用「那個破麻」稱呼我媽,因為我祖母都是這樣稱呼她的;我從小被祖母打
到大,她對外的說法是「被那個人帶大品性很差」
不要誤會喔,我的祖父母不僅不是什麼違法亂紀之徒,在我們那個小小的鄉下還有熱心公
益的好名聲,但這一點都不影響她在我心中惡毒的形象
所以不要再說祖父母一定有權利看孫子了,如果她們會試圖離間父母子女的關係,那保持
距離才是正確的決定
…………補充說明……………
https://i.imgur.com/20NEtuT.jpg
很多人沒看清楚我回文的對象,所以補充我在本文的推文截圖,我發文不是支持所有爸媽
不讓小孩接觸爺爺奶奶,而是支持爸媽保護孩子遠離會傷害小孩或離間父母子女的人,不
管那個人是誰;在我的故事裡那個人是我的祖母,在別的故事裡也許是繼母、叔父或鄰居
三姑六婆,父母有義務保護孩子,也有義務注意哪些人事物會傷害孩子,在我的故事裡,
我爸爸就疏忽了,他和鄉里的大部分人一樣,以為我祖母是熱心公益善良和藹的人,其實
後來他也了解了,並且試圖補救,只是為時已晚,我沒有寫,只是因為沒有必要將所有的
私事都揭露出來,不代表沒有發生
另外,p版友提到我直到三十歲才查媽媽的資訊沒什麼好說的,我想回一下
我不是直到三十歲才查媽媽的資訊,而是直到三十歲才查到她的資訊;我曾經做過從中山
北路一段走到圓山,沿路找印象中外公家的地方,因為我小時候只有外公家在中山北路以
及去圓山動物園的印象;我也作過打查號台電話一次問五個號碼,將台北市裡和我媽相同
名字的電話全部打一輪,但沒有一個是我媽;小時候偷偷到公共電話亭打印象中媽媽的電
話但沒有打通、在聯合報副刊看到耶篇投稿內容很像我媽的經歷,寫信到聯合報請她們提
供作者聯絡方式...我沒有在文章中寫完這些,因為那與我想表達的主題無關,但很高興有
版友問了,我在回憶的過程中又想起更多以為已經遺忘的往事;一個人只有徹底被遺忘,
才是真正的逝去,我是這樣相信的,所以謝謝p版友以及這篇文章許多許多的鄉民朋友,
謝謝你們安慰我、支持我,或者質問我,不管那一種都讓我想起更多跟媽媽之間的事,謝
謝你們。
: 八卦版有人說這版變成婆婆版
: 很好奇來看一下
: 結果還是婚姻版
: 基本上我覺得
: 你家這情形你爸媽雖然口無遮攔
: 不知道在講三小
: 你哥還默默吞掉不知道在懦弱三小
: 但基本上你大嫂還是錯的一蹋糊塗
: 你大嫂可以這輩子都不跟你爸媽見面
: 我也覺得沒什麼,
: 甚至你爸媽百年後他連送都不肯送
: 我也最多就覺得怎麼那麼會撿恨…
: 講些放開點讓自己輕鬆點這種幹話而已
: (畢竟你父母講的話真的很沒常識, 沒水準)
: 但去剝奪一對祖父母跟孫子
: 或者是孫子跟祖父母的互動
: 就錯到不能再錯
: (祖父母是犯罪份子, 這種特例不講)
: (不過即使是犯罪份子, 只要對小孩有心
: 沒刻意教壞 也不是太大問題…畢竟只是接觸
: 又不是長期給他們帶)
: 你嫂子
: 會這樣做壓根底是把自己的怨恨情緒
: 利用孩子得到發洩而已
: 你嫂子壓根底沒為小孩子去想
: 甚至是把一種怨恨教育傳到下一代
: 一個人要不要撿恨一輩子, 是他自己的事情
: 但我敢肯定撿恨的日子, 絕對比不撿恨的人
: 還要來過的輕鬆快樂
: (我知道不撿恨很難做啦 我也超撿恨 只能努力過輕鬆而已)
: 但身為人父母
: 不就是要絞盡腦汁讓自己後代過的比自己好嗎
: 那幹嘛去剝奪自己小孩多了祖父母疼的機會
: 幹嘛教育小孩多點怨恨呢?
: 打到這裡, 我覺得我打的東西好像不是應該在結婚版
: 應該是在babymother版
: 那還是老話一句「就…離婚吧」
: 補一下自己好了
: 我跟我丈人丈母娘他們
: 是沒什麼真衝突
: 但我丈母娘又口無遮攔
: 幾句靠北的話,也不是沒聽過
: 我是沒特別怨恨啦…
: 但要我特別喜歡也絕對沒有
: 丈人話又少…也都不知道能講啥
: 因此…我生小孩前也都幾個月見一次
: 甚至沒什麼重要的事情時,
: 我宿醉我老婆要回家
: 我還會叫他不要回去...少了人幫我跑腿…哈哈
: 有重要事情不需要我出面時, 我一直都要去不去的(看我當時心情)
: 生了小孩後
: 人家外公外婆不嫌棄, 當成寶
: 小孩又把外公外婆當成…嗯…玩具?(哈)
: 我現在不論是宿醉難受…熬夜沒睡
: 週日都會燃起洪荒之力讓他們享受祖孫之樂
: 然後自己在那邊快死掉, 但看他們玩得開心..我也開心
: 幾年過後, 跟丈人開始有話講了
: 感情也越來越融洽了
: 雖然我還是覺得我丈母娘常常口無遮攔
: 但…我就當作那是我女兒玩具的租借費用吧
: 講到這裡, 我是要強調
: 我覺得生為父母千萬不要因為自己的情緒
: 或者任何事情去剝奪/利用小孩該有的生活及權力
: 這是不道德且自私的
: 你可以自己怨恨或喜歡一些事物,
: 但沒必要逼著小孩跟你一起…
: 甚至剝奪到他本來該有的
:
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