請理性討論就事論事 - 婚姻
By Kristin
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全文恕刪。
我潛水很久了,這次也想來說說自己的想法,
不過我中文造詣沒有說很好,可能有些話意表達的會不太適切。
我是從akakapo當板主時就在婚姻板流連,可能沒有板上一些元老久,但應該也有個
兩三年的時間了。
我喜歡akakapo,也喜歡現在的兩位板主,
雖然這三位有的言論或是處理版務的態度上我也不是說很認同。
akakapo比較保守,喜歡板上氣氛一片安和,無戰文爭吵,
但在這樣的板風訴求下,其實會發現大家的發言大多止於禮,
很多事情跟爭點都是點到為止,而不會因為意見看法不同而辯論,
我個人其實也不愛吵架或筆戰,但我卻覺得有時候相互爭辯下是可以激發出
很多新的想法跟讓自己的EQ或是說思考事情的方式更為成長,
所以當我在跟人爭吵時,我最愛講的一句話就是:
「我們都沒有錯,只是看事情的角度或身處的立場剛好不一樣罷了」。
爭吵這件事情對我來說最重要的不是爭出「輸贏」,而是讓我有機會可以了解到更多面
的看法,可以得到:「喔喔~原來你是這樣想的,嗯嗯,那我跟你說喔~我是這樣想的」
對我來說,惟有知道對方的想法,以及充分表達自己所想的,才可以從爭吵中解脫,
進而進化到各退一步取得雙方意見分歧中的一個平衡點。
以辯出輸贏為爭吵的最大訴求,就算贏了也只是強迫對方接受自己的言論,
這是很暴力也很愚蠢的行為。
所以我喜歡akakapo管板時的和平,但那時的婚姻板對我來說就是個預習婚姻關係中
可能會發生的問題,並預先做好心理準備的一個園地而已。
兩位男性板主的言論則是常常帶給我一些處事的想法上很大的衝擊,
常會有:「欸~原來這件事情可以從這樣的角度切入啊!?」的新發現。
雖然說實話,有時候我實在覺得兩位板主超級大男人。。。
但男生管板真的就有一種霸氣的魅力,這不是告白,只是很羨慕他們可以那麼堅持
自己的立場跟想法。
今天板上會吵成這樣,個人是覺得大多數人似乎都陷入「對錯、輸贏」的迴圈中,
真的有一個人可以爛到他所說的話都是屁,都是不值得聽的嗎? 我想很難。
反之,也不可能有一個人可以完美到他說的話都是對的。
我相信這個板上絕大多數的人都是成年人了,都多少經過社會的歷練,
可是近日內的推文,真的會讓我覺得好像小朋友吵架 @@
你踩我一腳;我就還你一巴掌,打你打不贏我就去跟老師告狀;
罵你罵不贏我就去翻你舊帳,去跟你媽媽說你上次考試作弊。
打爛戰,或是純粹因為反對而反對,我覺得都不是一個成年人該有的舉動吧?
可能我天生奴性比較強?我真的覺得管板的是誰對我來說都不重要,
我來這個板上不是為了發揚我個人的治世態度,只是希望可以在這樣一個公開的
討論板中,藉由各地的板友們的討論,讓自己的眼界更開闊,思考更宏觀。
關上電腦,我要面對的還是我的親友,我的丈夫,我的小孩,不是板友們。
講白點,PTT是讓我可以不用接觸人群,跟陌生人面對面就能知道「社會觀感」的地方,
今天發了一篇文被噓,我就虛心檢討是否我的言論有不當之處,
是不是我沒把我要講的東西充分表達給大家知道,如果每個人都可以先反省自己,
而不是劈頭就痛罵別人不懂自己的辛苦辛酸,發言前試著站在別人的立場來想事情,
我覺得這才會造就雙贏。
再講回來小君,之前有個板友說:「小君一手建立出來的好形象,也被她親手給毀了」
我對這句話再同意不過了,我不知道現在會覺得小君其實沒有錯的人有無參與到之前
她的一些比較跳針的發文?
還記得之前有篇迷路文,一個未婚的小姐,來此板問一些問題(抱歉,我記性不是很好,
只記得大概),底下推文不斷告訴她:你迷路了,請去結婚板。
但該位小姐還是不斷地發文,最後不意外,底下噓文遍遍。
小君之前的跳針,就給我同樣的感覺。
大家明明已經給她答案了,但她似乎不瞭解那就是答案,或是她可能在尋求一個
所謂更「中肯」的答案,總之她就是不斷不斷地發文闡述她的想法,
今天若我的小孩問我:媽咪,1+1=多少?我回答:2 啊!
她又問:媽咪,不是啦~我是要問你1根手指頭 + 1根手指頭 = 多少啦?
我還會耐著性子回她:是兩根手指頭阿~
如果她又問:唉唷~不是啦~我是要問你1根腳趾頭+1根腳趾頭等於多少啦~
我可能會開始不耐煩地回她:是兩根腳趾頭阿~
但是如果她又問:媽咪,你都說錯了啦,我是要問你一根頭髮+一根頭髮等於多少啦~
我可能會從她的頭直接巴下去。。。
換湯不換藥,但偏偏我又實在不知道她到底葫蘆裡賣的是什麼藥,
就是我對小君之前發的一些文以及所提問的問題的感想。
我承認我沒什麼耐性,問一次OK,問兩次再解釋一次也還OK,
問三次我會覺得:你是來亂的嗎?問四次,我真的...只能變身成賽亞人了。
以最近期發問的問題來說吧:「離婚的女性再婚,會得到怎樣的社會觀感?」
假如這是考題:我會保守再保守,因為我不知道出題老師是不是剛好離婚且想再婚。
假如這是辯論會的議題,我會希望我抽到的是正方,因為這樣辯論起來比較不會傷人。
假如這是街坊鄰居八卦的話題:那我相信十個里鄰有九個是反方,因為這樣八卦起來
比較刺激,充滿腥羶色。
假如這是在PTT上討論的問題:我會傾向,當事人開心就好。
當初這個問題,保守言論有!正方鼓勵有!反方批評有!你爽就好也有!
這就是社會觀感呀,但現在卻得到了原來出題者要的只有正向回答,
頓時之間我有種,好加在我沒回文,不然不就文不對題拿個鴨蛋的竊喜感。
爾雅她們的發言有沒有錯?我不覺得有錯只是可能不適當,但今天要上來一個公開
的板面上尋求答案,不就該具備有「我已非我」的心理準備嗎?
我不是我,我只是個旁觀者;被誤會也好,被辱罵也罷,有人鼓勵很好,
有人反對也讚,只要最終我可以從這些五花八門的言論中得到我要的就好!
畢竟這些言論是因為我的「問題」才被產生出來的不是嗎?
所以不管正面或負面,其實我都該心存感激欸~:)
板友對我來說就是「工具」,工具不好用不用就罷,不需要刻意去毀壞它,
此人言論與我不合,不看便罷,不需要企圖去渡化或是改變他,因為關上電腦,
他還是他,我還是我,改變了他,我並不會因此比較偉大或是快樂。
所以結論,板主是誰我根本不在乎,我只是單純支持這樣一個自由的板風,
大鳴大放,只有工具(言論)的種類越多,我才能從中找到最適合自己的。
輸或贏只是一個短暫快樂或憤怒的感覺,把他們鬥下台了,然後再選出新的板主,
接下來不久也許又會出現:阿~我還是比較喜歡loser1跟redddd管的婚姻板的言論,
一直覺得自己撿的石頭不是最大最好的,於是丟掉再撿,是專屬小孩子的任性,
我是這樣認為的。:)
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永遠只看自己想看,只聽自己想聽的這種行為罷了。
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