快滿一年的日本幫.. - 異國戀
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By Charlie
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咳咳 我是原po 沒想到我的自介文會引起大家熱烈回應
本來覺得 自己描寫情報不足 可能一些誤會受到比較嚴厲的指責
但反正只是網路上的言論就算了^^a
後來發現我的自介文被m不能刪- -;) 考量到現今網路力量很可怕
我還是決定回一下文來自清...請多多指教m(_ _)m
先從細節講起
1. 文中的小日本 只是對自家男友暱稱 跟年齡無關 事實上我們同年
就像很多人po文都會說 我家阿呆 我家那隻 一樣 沒啥特別意思
所以 知道日本給薪情況的人就知道 在學歷年齡都一樣的條件下 基本薪資也是一樣的
2. 對於文中外國人的用法 很抱歉我描寫不足
我指得是相對於日本人的非日本人 所以包括我自己也是外國人
我周圍有很多外國人(美國人 新加坡人 馬來人 印尼人 中國人)
是因為我們是透過同一方式到日本工作的
所以他們也成為我在日本無依無靠時的精神支柱跟好夥伴
我會這樣用「外國人」的字眼 是因為 在我的公司 日本人就是這樣稱呼我們
在日文裡 就是「外人」這個詞彙 這樣乍看之下是不是很有貶義?
但如果了解日文就知道事實上沒有貶義的意思 所以我自己也說我是外國人
還有包括我那群好友們 並且我文中也沒有褒外國人貶日本人的意思啦
只是說出 我的好友們跟 我的日本男友 價值觀的不同而已
3. 再來就是 皮夾的那件事 老實說一萬多yen對我來說「真的」是小錢
我可以很自豪的說 我從學生時代開始就一直很努力 所以我在同齡的女生中
薪水算高 經濟算好(不是指家裡經濟)
我從學生時代就開始打工 在台灣交過的男友也都是窮學生
所以窮學生的愛情我也經歷過 我從來沒主動要過禮物 身上也沒有名牌的東西
出去吃飯玩樂 就像我前文說的 小錢輪流出 大錢算清楚
一直到我出社會了 有能力對自己好了
我身上所有的名牌都是用我賺的每一分錢買來的
我當然可以不要努力念書工作 每天打扮的美美出門釣凱子找人包養
但我算是大女人個性 我的日本同事看到我說囔囔著說存錢 就會說
「女生如果像你這樣工作能力強 又賺太多錢不好 這樣會辛苦一輩子
女生就是要輕鬆過日子讓男生疼就好」
我沒有要說嘴的意思 只是想強調我是沒有經濟自主能力就沒有安全感的人
所以對於現在的男友 我們出去吃飯是輪流出 出去旅行 是五五分 或者六四分
或者是 平常他會買一些甜點來我家 然後我下廚做飯給他吃
皮夾的事 的確是我自己買比較快 (事實上我也已經買了)
有個板友說的很對 我在意的是「心意問題」 我想知道飲み会跟討女友歡心
對 我現任男友來說 他會怎麼選擇
關於飲み会 我認為有能力的人 不用去每一場應酬 他也可以證明自己的價值
我身邊也有很多日本同事 家庭第一 飲み会挑重點去就好
而我也希望我男友可以成為這樣的人 畢竟女生們不會希望跟日本老公結婚後
每天被丟在家裡 獨守空閨吧?!
我認同版友說的 在婚前 我的確沒權力干涉他的用錢
但我因為本身有存錢計畫(結婚基金 買車買房基金)
這件事不是單靠女生一人就可以完成 所以我才會希望他可以對自己的支出
做良好的規劃 而不是我一方面在省錢就好了
(抱歉.....一不小心就流為多餘的話題了...><)
4. 很抱歉 我最近的確周圍人的一些事而感到情緒低潮
就不小心po了一篇空洞的抱怨文
事實上 我在來日本工作前 完全不會日文 來日本後也沒上過語言學校
就直接進公司一邊接受簡單的日語教育 一邊工作(我是工程師)
所以我跟一般來日本求學的人不一樣
我周圍沒有所謂的「日本朋友」, 只有一堆「日本同事」
大家所知的 日本人本來就很難打入 若是有工作關係的人 更別想要有私交了
我的辦公室裡 安靜到講的每句話 大家好像都豎著耳朵在聽
而這也是為什麼我適應不良的原因 因為我本來是熱情的台灣人阿
來到這裡 我不能工作一半無聊 跟同事閒話家常 想裝自閉也不能就帶起耳機不理人
因為日本職場是非常嚴謹的 種種事讓我對交不到日本的真心朋友感到不安
版友說的對 我待不下去 就滾回台灣就好了阿
但很多現實考量 我還是必須得在這待上一陣子
我得有抒發自己壓力的方法 所以就不小心在這裡po了一堆抱怨文真的很抱歉><
5. 最後 我想說的是 26歲的我 雖然不敢說自己有多成熟 但我也經歷了很多事
在ptt打滾這麼多年 一些爭議文章多的八卦版 科技版 男女版等等我也常在看
我有一個很大的體認是 批評別人很容易(我自己也說了不喜歡日本人之類的話)
尤其是在網路上 批評別人好像是不用負責任一樣 而很少人可以做到有同理心
我很謝謝各位版友對我的指教 或者是安慰 理解
我自己也有很多事要學習檢討 學著包容體諒跟溝通
當然 還有跟我家「小日本」慢慢磨合找到平衡點
之後還是可能會再上來麻煩大家解惑 ぜひ よろしくお願いします^^
--
本來覺得 自己描寫情報不足 可能一些誤會受到比較嚴厲的指責
但反正只是網路上的言論就算了^^a
後來發現我的自介文被m不能刪- -;) 考量到現今網路力量很可怕
我還是決定回一下文來自清...請多多指教m(_ _)m
先從細節講起
1. 文中的小日本 只是對自家男友暱稱 跟年齡無關 事實上我們同年
就像很多人po文都會說 我家阿呆 我家那隻 一樣 沒啥特別意思
所以 知道日本給薪情況的人就知道 在學歷年齡都一樣的條件下 基本薪資也是一樣的
2. 對於文中外國人的用法 很抱歉我描寫不足
我指得是相對於日本人的非日本人 所以包括我自己也是外國人
我周圍有很多外國人(美國人 新加坡人 馬來人 印尼人 中國人)
是因為我們是透過同一方式到日本工作的
所以他們也成為我在日本無依無靠時的精神支柱跟好夥伴
我會這樣用「外國人」的字眼 是因為 在我的公司 日本人就是這樣稱呼我們
在日文裡 就是「外人」這個詞彙 這樣乍看之下是不是很有貶義?
但如果了解日文就知道事實上沒有貶義的意思 所以我自己也說我是外國人
還有包括我那群好友們 並且我文中也沒有褒外國人貶日本人的意思啦
只是說出 我的好友們跟 我的日本男友 價值觀的不同而已
3. 再來就是 皮夾的那件事 老實說一萬多yen對我來說「真的」是小錢
我可以很自豪的說 我從學生時代開始就一直很努力 所以我在同齡的女生中
薪水算高 經濟算好(不是指家裡經濟)
我從學生時代就開始打工 在台灣交過的男友也都是窮學生
所以窮學生的愛情我也經歷過 我從來沒主動要過禮物 身上也沒有名牌的東西
出去吃飯玩樂 就像我前文說的 小錢輪流出 大錢算清楚
一直到我出社會了 有能力對自己好了
我身上所有的名牌都是用我賺的每一分錢買來的
我當然可以不要努力念書工作 每天打扮的美美出門釣凱子找人包養
但我算是大女人個性 我的日本同事看到我說囔囔著說存錢 就會說
「女生如果像你這樣工作能力強 又賺太多錢不好 這樣會辛苦一輩子
女生就是要輕鬆過日子讓男生疼就好」
我沒有要說嘴的意思 只是想強調我是沒有經濟自主能力就沒有安全感的人
所以對於現在的男友 我們出去吃飯是輪流出 出去旅行 是五五分 或者六四分
或者是 平常他會買一些甜點來我家 然後我下廚做飯給他吃
皮夾的事 的確是我自己買比較快 (事實上我也已經買了)
有個板友說的很對 我在意的是「心意問題」 我想知道飲み会跟討女友歡心
對 我現任男友來說 他會怎麼選擇
關於飲み会 我認為有能力的人 不用去每一場應酬 他也可以證明自己的價值
我身邊也有很多日本同事 家庭第一 飲み会挑重點去就好
而我也希望我男友可以成為這樣的人 畢竟女生們不會希望跟日本老公結婚後
每天被丟在家裡 獨守空閨吧?!
我認同版友說的 在婚前 我的確沒權力干涉他的用錢
但我因為本身有存錢計畫(結婚基金 買車買房基金)
這件事不是單靠女生一人就可以完成 所以我才會希望他可以對自己的支出
做良好的規劃 而不是我一方面在省錢就好了
(抱歉.....一不小心就流為多餘的話題了...><)
4. 很抱歉 我最近的確周圍人的一些事而感到情緒低潮
就不小心po了一篇空洞的抱怨文
事實上 我在來日本工作前 完全不會日文 來日本後也沒上過語言學校
就直接進公司一邊接受簡單的日語教育 一邊工作(我是工程師)
所以我跟一般來日本求學的人不一樣
我周圍沒有所謂的「日本朋友」, 只有一堆「日本同事」
大家所知的 日本人本來就很難打入 若是有工作關係的人 更別想要有私交了
我的辦公室裡 安靜到講的每句話 大家好像都豎著耳朵在聽
而這也是為什麼我適應不良的原因 因為我本來是熱情的台灣人阿
來到這裡 我不能工作一半無聊 跟同事閒話家常 想裝自閉也不能就帶起耳機不理人
因為日本職場是非常嚴謹的 種種事讓我對交不到日本的真心朋友感到不安
版友說的對 我待不下去 就滾回台灣就好了阿
但很多現實考量 我還是必須得在這待上一陣子
我得有抒發自己壓力的方法 所以就不小心在這裡po了一堆抱怨文真的很抱歉><
5. 最後 我想說的是 26歲的我 雖然不敢說自己有多成熟 但我也經歷了很多事
在ptt打滾這麼多年 一些爭議文章多的八卦版 科技版 男女版等等我也常在看
我有一個很大的體認是 批評別人很容易(我自己也說了不喜歡日本人之類的話)
尤其是在網路上 批評別人好像是不用負責任一樣 而很少人可以做到有同理心
我很謝謝各位版友對我的指教 或者是安慰 理解
我自己也有很多事要學習檢討 學著包容體諒跟溝通
當然 還有跟我家「小日本」慢慢磨合找到平衡點
之後還是可能會再上來麻煩大家解惑 ぜひ よろしくお願いします^^
--
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at 2011-12-22T23:39
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at 2011-12-30T07:29
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at 2012-02-23T22:27
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at 2012-02-26T19:28
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at 2012-03-09T19:28
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at 2012-03-21T02:30
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at 2012-03-22T08:56
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at 2012-03-26T19:29
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at 2012-03-29T23:55
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