婚姻版的這二任版主(akakapo & loser1) - 婚姻
By Rae
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說實話,我原本以為這篇文章會在明年初才寫。一般來說,版主應該會做滿
一年後再離職,也不會落人口舌。但是我還在想幾個警告才會拔除版主時,
就可以開始寫這篇文章了。
會寫這篇文章的原因很多很多。當然最重要的原因,是因為婚姻版在2007年
我結婚以來,陪伴我渡過蠻多無聊的時間,而且讓我還蠻開心的。
另外一個原因是婚姻版的前後任版主實在都太有特色了,很難得在同一個版
上看到立場幾乎如此鮮明且各走極端的二位版主。像我這種喜愛動筆表現的人
來說,不寫寫文章手還蠻癢的。
~~~~ 標題殺人法,有個好標題是吸引讀者的不二法門
惡即斬 akakapo
在許多文章中不止我,均稱讚akakapo的好。以我玩bbs大約18年來的經驗,
akakpo是我看過最好的版主。她幾乎可以說把婚姻版當女兒養,用無微不至的
愛心與耐心來守護婚姻版。我照顧我家琪琪都不敢說有她這麼細心 XD
akakapo也特別受到另外一群網友的喜愛:未婚女性。這個是我完全想不到
的一件事。我通常都是個人有興趣時,才會去看那個版,沒有興趣就不看了。
但是我發現,非常多的未婚女性在看婚姻版。一開始是我某未婚女性朋友告知
我她有在看,後來我發現某版一堆未婚女性在看婚姻版(不過通常是罵loser1),
然後我的未婚女性朋友又有上ptt的,全部在看婚姻版。原來婚姻對於女性,是
如此的重要!!年過35,也漸漸體會「男怕入錯行,女怕嫁錯狼」的真義。
不過akakapo的管理,子一語以蔽之:「惡即斬」。先別管loser1被浸過n次
水桶才終於認分的收斂講話方式,在後期只要有任何影響版上和協之事,不論
文章或是推文,不是水桶就是整串文章被砍。甚至有人發個酸一點的文章或是
推文,大家(或是我)就可以預見他被警告或是砍文的下場。有時候只是在推文
中熱烈的討論(像是之前版務),言語態度上出現針峰相對但是不失貌的情況下,
也是抱歉直接警告加砍文。
一把刀是二面的刃,如此管理方式下,最有名的犧牷代表就是「男性版友的
沈默螺旋」。畢竟男女在社會上的立場至今差異很大,無論是先天與後天的差
異,造成觀點往往有天壤之別。加上婚姻版當時的男女比是1:9,女性具有絕
對多數。所以常常發生以下事情(這是示意流程):
一位男性版友發了文章或是推文後,只要幾位女性版友(1:9嘛)看不爽,開始
用噓文或是尖酸的方式回應後,萬一男性版友稍加反駁,女性版友又回應一下,
就會讓該文章看起來在爭吵,然後下場就是被砍文。這種事情只要發生個一、二
次,明明自己發的文章就沒有啥問題,僅是因為幾位版友不爽就被砍文,以後就
不在發文了,甚至連推文也免了。這個問題造成在akakapo後期,男性版友願意
發言的人數大概不超過五位,嚴格說起來應該約三位(當時我有私下評估一下)。
另外一個砍文的問題在於,若是一整個討論串的某篇文章被戰時,往往整個討
論串會直接被砍,這也讓我非常的沮喪。我很認真花了二小時的一篇文章,被另
外一篇文章下且完全無關主題,只是爭吵其他事情的推文,就整串被砍。在經過
二次之後,小弟我也不愛回文了。
這是潛水版友所不能體會的事情!!
這個不能說是沒有保障言論自由,砍文的標準也很公平,就是如此嚴格。但是
整個版面上最後就只剩下媳婦受虐的的討拍文,也是其來有自。媳婦版 這三個字
應該是當時最好的註解。
有討論版務的人,就有看我之前寫的#1AC65bjA。loser1是被我拿來和教母並
論的人,在婚姻版連我這個男性版友都不是很接受。可是在最後竟然會有75%左
右的版友願意投他,那確實是有原因的。
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暴風眼 loser1
就婚姻版來說,我不會覺得loser1是一位「好版主」;在akakapo年代,若是
其他版有爭議時,我都會請他來看婚姻版;在loser1管理時我卻不會。
簡單來說,loser1 的發言,沒有顧到版上佔有絕對多數組成份子:女性版友。
在整個組務公告的發言內,甚至連我有時候都覺得有點跨張。這也是造成版上風波
不斷的主因。
不過loser1在這八個月的任期內,實在是太精彩了,根本就是ptt版主群中的
蘋果日報!精彩、特色、創意且又有深度,確實讓我看到在不違反管理的權限之
下,一位版主能夠發揮到的極限。著名的代表就是版畜汪汪,這個汪汪應該會在
婚姻版流傳許久~~~
若是把版務的紛擾拿掉,loser1確實有做到他所說的:大嗚大放。看到版上的
言論不在局限於媳婦文,男性版友的發言增多。akakapo年代的警告水桶與砍文,
在loser1的管理下也少了非常非常非常多。每次看到有人說,婚姻版變成一言堂
時,我都覺得那位網友是不是記憶只有三個月而己,還是得了失憶症 xd。
為什麼我在上次的版務討論時,都在挺loser1?在我 #1AC65bjA 的最後,
有引述一段著名的文章。我認為版主在管理版面時,應該要保障最大的言論自由,
管理應該要減到最小。相較於akakapo,loser1給了我這個最重要的東西。不過,
我不認同版主的管理應帶來版面上的紛爭,尤其版主最後變成了問題製造機。
除了「匿名ID」之外,拿掉那堆創意的文字,loser1的管理風格與態度,確實
讓我耳目一新,非常欣賞。如何讓一個中型版面且老鳥林立,文章與推文全部都
具有情緒與鮮明立場的情況下,達到了言論自由極大化又不失秩序(或許有人不
同意),實在是難能可貴。
特別講一下「匿名ID」的事情。我是一位很認同文章自負的人,我連BLOG都直
接放在連結中,就是認為我在現實與網路中,都對我的言論做負全責。但是萬一
發生婚姻問題時,我還是會希望用「匿名ID」;畢竟我老婆不看,我朋友也在看。
有人會說,可以自行注冊一個新ID啊;若是你連註冊一個新ID也不肯,表示這件
事也不對你也不重要。面對上述說法,我個人比較傾向這個樣法:「有個人在婚
姻上發生問題,陷入很差的情況下,又不想找朋友,來婚姻版用匿名ID發文後,
透過鼓勵與建議就撐過來了。」我願意賭這種想法來看待匿名ID。
loser1用他詼楷幽默的方式,來表示其對婚姻與bbs管理上的看法與見解,評價
算是二極化。不過以我個人而言,他在版主的八個月來,確實讓我開心的逛逛婚
姻版,每天期待新事情的發生。
從loser1的文章中可知道,他自己也沒有想到會這樣子被拔掉。若是他知道而
「收斂」他的創意管理,那究竟會如何呢?
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at 2010-09-22T00:41
死老頭被拔板主
By Oliver
at 2010-09-21T21:30
at 2010-09-21T21:30